Thursday, June 21, 2012

End Of The Line


Ok ya so my adventure to the world of showering, kissing, and rimming was cool.  But HERE’S THE IMPROTNAT THING TO TAKE OUT OF IT OK?  At one point little Scottie (who…uh…at the time was a very happy little Scottie) was in very close proximity to…uh…the dudes…uh…place where things typically come out but don’t go in.  Right at that point I felt the dude grab my bone and sorta try to guide him into his asshole.  I kinda rearrainged the postion so I could continue but kept my dick away from the guys hole. On the way home it was ‘holy shit he wanted me to fuck him bareback’.  Blew me the hell away.  If there’s 1 thing I learned from you guys is you don’t fuck that way. So here’s this dude who I just had championship sex with, cool normal guy, practicing fuckin unsafe sex.  Haven’t seen him since and never will. So guys, especially you horny curious fuckers, I know its tempting and you get your ass in all kinds of dilemmas, but you GOTTA know when to pull away. No matter how tempting.  Got it?

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  1. Thanks for that last statement, Scott. It's an important reminder. Though it may be rare to contract an STD by topping, it is by no means unheard of. As the saying went in the 80's: "No glove, no love."

    Always stay/play safe. If a guy wants to bypass that, stuff your dick in your pants, run the fuck away, and don't look back.

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  2. Run fast, run far. I won't even play safe with someone I know who has been barebacking. I'm not taking that chance.

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  3. I can go anywhere on the web for lies and bullshit. I come here for the truth. And you deliver it. Thanks Scott. You're the man.

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  4. I have to agree with you on this post. Better to be "safe" than sorry. No judgements, just not my thing.
    BlkJack

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  5. I agree... Great Post! Thanks! cg

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  6. Good for you Scott!!! I'm proud of you. It's important for all guys to remember but ESPECIALLY the married guys. No one deserves that. Thank you. You have guts my friend
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  7. Scotty - always a good word!

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  8. Just so you know I've had hours of self gratification from this story. The guy turned out to be an idiot for practicing unsafe sex, but I really wish that I was in his place and it was me you were in bed with. I've fantasized about those lips on my rosebud many times. Long time reader, first time commentor.

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    1. I assure you, long time read, you are not the only one who has fantasized about those lips. I remember being the first to comment about Scott's lip. They are hot!! He has a nice face, and beautiful lips. I also want him to be safe. I worry about him, but he has it together. Also, as he supports us, we support him. He's cool and very hot.
      bj.

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  9. If he is barebacking - what might you have already been exposed in having champion sex with him?

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  10. Well said shithead! It takes stones to speak the truth. Str8jocktalking has never purported to be a clearing house for information on STDs. We’re all familiar w/ the expression, “no pain, no gain.” Well the same is true when it comes to our favorite past time. Too often there’s been a LOT of misinformation from readers about what safe behavior is and isn’t. If you’re gonna play, you better know the risks involved. And if you’re in a relationship…it’s not just your life on the line. May I heartily recommend you go back and read the comment from “D” under the 5/29 post “Rest of the Kiss.” Ass play involves significantly higher risks, so learn what they are and what you can do to mitigate them. You’re a good man Scott…much as it pains me to say that. 
    Cheers!

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    1. Please enlighten me. Which comment do you mean? I can't find one from "D" on 5/9.

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  11. I'm sorry this experienced turned out this way. However, you took a huge step. Onward and upward young Scott. We may give you a lot of shit but we're all behind you. And you are one terribly, terribly hot guy!!!

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    1. May I suggest something. You said, onward and upward young Scott.
      Maybe we should consider giving Scott a title. We are not going to give him knighthood, nor the title of prince, certainly, not King, nor Queen, not yet, but we can refer to him as, Young Scott. yes, I like that, Young Scott. By the way, he is hung, young and hung go together, nicely.
      So, tonight we christen him as, Young Scott! And! He's our man.

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  12. Good man, Scott. You gotta take responsibility for yourself and little Scottie.

    That said.. it may be that all that's needed to salvage said championship sex partner is a frank discussion of where your limits are -- most (not all, but most) guys that bareback, are ok playing safe, particularly on bottom, if they're playing with someone it's important to.

    If you play under teh assumption that one of the two of you may be hosting some sort of nasty and not know it, and you take the appropriate precautions (wherever your personal limits there are), it becomes a lot easier to stop worrying about who might have what.

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    1. If a guy is known to practice unsafe sex, there is NO precaution Scott could take short of using condoms for oral AND anal sex (hepatitis, herpes, gonorrhea, HIV), dental dams for rimming (hepatitis and all manner of bacterial and protozoal illnesses) and a hazmat suit to protect against crabs. A gay man who has only himself to be responsible for can take that risk. A married man whose children's mother is at home and unaware would be foolish to take those risks for himself and the woman he claims to love. Not only is it totally unfair to subject her to illness but it is sure to end him up in divorce court. Even the "minor" STDs, curable with a short course of antibiotics, will wreck his life. Still think it's worth the risk?
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    2. Small point, but crabs can be transmitted very easily even if you do practice safe sex.

      So if you're going to advise wearing a hazmat suit to avoid them, you might as well start advocating their use with everyone, regardless of whether they practice safe sex or not.

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  13. Good man Scott. That's my bro.

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  14. Scott, Good that you kept your wits and acted responsibly. Hopefully guys and gals that read this will educate themselves on safer sex. Happy NYC Gay Pride!

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  15. You little shit. How dare you go and act all responsible. You have ruined my image of you! But I'm so glad that you care enough about your loyal readers and yourself to pull out (as it were) from an unsafe situation. I'm proud of you!

    Mark from Pittsburgh

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  16. The idea of having sex, scares me. I remember one time, I met a guy on cl and we had safe sex, as one could call it. There was no penetration, but for weeks after, I wonder about getting something. I haven't been with someone in over a year. It's tempting, but scary and I don't want anything that I can't get rid of. In fact, I don't want anything at all.
    I remember one time reading something about sexual partners. If you had sex with someone and that someone had had sex with a hundred people, then you are having sex with all of them.
    Have a good safe sex weekend, everyone.
    Question? What is it with guys, that they can't stay with one person? They get around like whoring mutts.

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  17. I need advice guys. I am a married bi guy (over 45) and I had unprotected sex all night with another married bi guy (over 45). I was just tested and was HIV negative a few weeks before our night together. He also says he is HIV negative. We both sucked and got fucked bareback, and came inside each other 2-3 times during the night. How much trouble am I in? What should I do?

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    1. You need to get tested all over again ASAP and NOT touch your wife without a condom for a very long time as you can still seroconvert up to 6 months post exposure. Had you been seen within 72 hours of exposure you could have availed yourself of post exposure prophylaxis or PEP but you may be outside the 72 hr window.

      Aside from HIV there are a whole host of other diseases you MAY have been exposed to and in turn will expose your wife to. A "clean" health certificate is not worththe paper it is written on. While I have some sympathy for some men in your position nothing gives you the right to behave recklessly with an innocent 3rd party's health. Get to your local public health department IMMEDIATELY and explain your situation and follow their recommendations exactly
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    2. Even if he says he is negative? I should have known better, but it seemed safe at the time. Topping was less risky, being the bottom was more risky.

      Yes this was me at 1:46 pm. Thanks, it was like 72 hours ago.

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    3. If it was 72 hours ago get seen IMMEDIATELY !! You may still have time. If u have to go to an ER. You know u can't rely on a verbal assurance from someone you KNOW practices unsafe sex. If he was safe, he never would have barebacked outside of a long term monogamous relationship. Get cracking dude, u may still make the cut. PEP is a 28 day course of antiretroviral mess. No picnic but far better than HIV if it works. Have them check you for the other stds while you're there
      Good luck and don't be that dumb again
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    4. Here's the national clinician's PEP hotline#
      1-888-448-4911
      24 hrs/7 days per week

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    5. I did call and they gave me the phone number of a place to call in my area. Thanks again.

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    6. Best of luck. After your done, do everyone a favor and write back and tell Scott's readers whether that one night was worth it. You'll help others by doing that. Good luck again
      D

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    7. I did not get treatment. The guy I was with assured me he was just tested HIV neg. Plus I would have had to go to a hospital emergency room. I spoke to people at the hotline that seemed to indicate the risk is low...however it is a risk. I will get tested again in early October to make sure I am still clean. Sure, kind of scarry. I have not had any unprotected sex with my wife since then.

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    8. I will get tested or buy a home test around Sept. 18, which is just past 3 months later.

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  18. Anonymous 5.15
    At one time a counselor at a clinic told me, that if you have unprotected sex with someone, the virus will show itself at three months. I have also heard that it can pop up years later, but three months seems to be the number now.
    If anyone should meet someone and they have a paper saying that they were tested and tested negative. If they were sexually active a week or a month before that particular test, the virus may not show up. So, he who says, he is negative, better have been sex free at least three months before the test.
    You probably have nothing to worry about, but the worry will drive you crazy. I recently met a guy online that I would like to meet. I had asked him, how active are you. He didn't answer. Needless to say, I am no longer interested. As someone suggested go to a clinic and see what they can do. It is confidential!
    If I may add something. The young ones today, as reported by a doctor who specializes in aids. The younger ones today, think that a pill or two will take care of the virus and life will be merry. That, ain't so. There's been wonderful progress, but you don't want to fuck around. At times, I am wanting sex, but then, I think, man, it's not worth the worry.

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    1. Thanks for the advice, when I called they said receiving anal unprotected sex, and if the guy cums inside you that has the greatest % of getting aids. So the 28 day treatment might be worth the trouble.

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    2. I am the guy that had the unprotected sex. I did call the local hotline that Friday night, it was like 72 hours at that point. They said I could go to a hospital, or come see them on Monday. I spoke with the guy I spent the night with who assured me he was HIV neg. as was I tested like one week earlier. So I did not seek any treatment. I will get tested again when it is like 3 months. I have not had any unprotected sex since with my wife. I did want to give you an update. Yes it is risky, but I did it. Getting tested again in Oct. 2012.

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    3. Thanks for the update. Hopefully, you'll test clean again. There is no assurance that a "clean" test result in your partner means he's still negative....you can test clean at 1:00pm and go out the same day and become infected at 5:00pm. It's wise to continue to use precautions with your wife. And PLEASE don't have unprotected sex again. If you were a single man it would be one thing. Your wife, no matter how you feel about her, does not deserve to be exposed
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    4. The date for my next test is Sept. 18, which is 3 months plus about a week. Plus the home stuff might be on the store shelves by then, which could help testing if you don't need to go somewhere and fill out paperwork and get judged.

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    5. Thanks again for updating us on your status. It can indeed be an unpleasant process. Home testing should make things much easier. But, none of that means you can have unprotected sex again. Inadvertent body fluid exposure is almost inevitable but as a married man especially you can't be as reckless ever again. Thank you for updating us. You've been in my thoughts. Here's wishing you a clean result in september. Let us know how you do!
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    6. I'm learning I guess. I was getting a massage and the guy had a fat 9.5" cock. Since I enjoyed his fingers working my butt and hole, he put on a condom and lubed me up, my legs over his broad shoulders. It was not long before that big cock was stroking inside me and he filled the condom with cum. I think I needed to be fucked, blew a big load 2-3 feet in the air. My wife is busy with work and kids, so we have not had sex.

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    7. I am about 2 weeks away from that HIV test. Have been good about keeping it in my pants and not possibly infecting my wife. So far doing the responsible thing. Thanks for the advice.

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    8. More than glad to hear it. If you learned something from the experience it wasnt a total loss. So happy that you've taken care to keep your wife safe. Let us know how it goes. I'm sure you'll do just fine
      Good luck again
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  19. THanks guys for all of hte advice. I am a true bi here and have sex regularly with a man and a woman; lathough the man and I only do oral and jerking and he is married and has no other partners but his wife and me. My woman FB claims she only does me and we go unprotected. Last test in May showed up with a clean bill of health. Any advice/

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    1. Jeeze, forgot....The health care community is seeing a tremendous rise in HPV (human papillomavirus) related head and neck cancers which is the virus is already linked to cervical and anal cancers. This type of cancer was long thought to be due primarily to smoking. Well, not so. Turns out health officials are attributing a lot of them now to oral sex. Yes, giving oral sex.And the greatest increase is being seen in men. It's not an easy cancer to treat so you need to be aware of your risk and let your physician know.

      Men who have sex with men (MSM) are among those who are most at risk for acquiring anal and oral HPV infection, although men who have sex with women (MSW) can also develop anal HPV infection. More recently, the medical community is improving efforts to screen MSM for anal HPV, but these efforts are inconsistent and vary among different practitioners and municipalities.

      Vaccines are available but are only recommended for males and females between the ages 9 or 10 and 26 years old.

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    2. anon at 901pm, sorry I commented before the HPV information but the comment got "lost" So here I go again.....What you describe is a "closed loop" arrangement. IF you trust that everyone is being truthful, it's pretty safe. BUT, you're putting your safety and the safety of your partners in their hands if they are not. Oral sex is considered a "low" risk behavior (not NO risk) and j/o is fairly risk free. You can still get hepatitis, HIV (very,very rarely) and gonorrhea of the throat from performing oral sex. And you can get all the usual stds from your female partner if she's not truthful. The following is an excellent tool and describes all the sexual behaviors both as giver and receiver for both sexes:

      http://www.sfcityclinic.org/stdbasics/stdchart.asp

      You owe it to yourself and your partners to be as truthful as you can about the risks. And avail yourself of the hepatitis vaccines. The are available at many places including travel immunization clinics if you'd prefer not to ask your personal physician. The are recommended for all MSM (men who have sex with men)
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    3. I have a question, this hpv. Am I to understand that it is something that a woman has or generates because she is a woman, and if a man screws her, he gets the virus? If so, if he gets it from a woman and then gets a blow job, he passes the virus on to the guy who gave the blow job, and that guy can get a head and neck cancer? If that is the case, then the bi guy is the spreader of a virus that he gets from the woman he sleeps with and passes it on to the one who blows him. It's like aids is alive and well, but in another form. A bi form, not the gay form that gays were accused of creating.
      Bottom line is, if I do someone who is married and his wife has the hpv virus, which is normal for a woman to develop, I think? and if her male partner has sex with me, and I do him to completion, I too, get the virus????, which leads to head and neck canrer? This seems all screwed up to me, and it is very scary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Thanks for any reply. Keep the reply simple, please!

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    4. The short answer to your question is "no". Women are not the repository for the HPV virus. According to the CDC, "Genital human papillomavirus (also called HPV) is the most common sexually transmitted infection (STI). There are more than 40 HPV types that can infect the genital areas of males and females. These HPV types can also infect the mouth and throat."
      Again, per the CDC,"Most people with HPV do not develop symptoms or health problems from it. In 90% of cases, the body’s immune system clears HPV naturally within two years. But, sometimes, HPV infections are not cleared". And they further state: "Approximately 20 million Americans are currently infected with HPV. Another 6 million people become newly infected each year. HPV is so common that at least 50% of sexually active men and women get it at some point in their lives.
      Certain populations are at higher risk for some HPV-related health problems. This includes gay and bisexual men, and people with weak immune systems (including those who have HIV/AIDS)".
      These statistics, again, are taken directly from the CDC website's HPV page:
      Other cancers that can be caused by HPV are less common than cervical cancer. Each year in the U.S., there are about:
      1,500 women who get HPV-associated vulvar cancer
      500 women who get HPV-associated vaginal cancer
      400 men who get HPV-associated penile cancer
      2,700 women and 1,500 men who get HPV-associated anal cancer
      1,500 women and 5,600 men who get HPV-associated oropharyngeal cancers (cancers of the back of throat including base of tongue and tonsils)
      So, in short, no one is to "blame" for HPV. But it's out there and you need to be aware.

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  20. Just want to say "thank you" to all who have volunteered the important and potentially life-saving info. given here. Your insights and advice are invaluable to those of us who read this site. It's crazy to think of the lives and health that might be improved because of your generosity.
    See what you have begun, Scott.
    Artful1

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    1. How in God's name, do u know if someone is infected? You may have the best of intentions to be with somone and that person is lying to you. I have seen on cl, that if someone from the city is advertising that they will be upstate, that the upstate person is not interested in the downstate person. The reason, if u live where there is sexual activity, the liklihood of getting an std and spreading it is greater. I would love to meet someone and have a relationship, but I don't trust ANYONE anymore. No one. If there is anyone out there, who has made a friend on cl or any of the other sites, please let me know. As far as I am concenred, there are no friends at all on any of those sites, only ones who want to fuck around and move on. This is one fucked up world that we live in.

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  21. I've lost to many dear friend in the years before we knew what caused HIV; now it seems more and more of our community have forgotten how HIV spreads. How many more of you want to be a name on a quilt; please protect yourselves and your partners (no matter a one nighter or long time).

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    1. Rich,
      Thank you for your info. I lost my younger brother to aids. It was twenty years ago. He was a contractor. To this day, I still haven't gotten over it. I don't think that a day goes by, that I don't think of him. He was a good kid. Very talented.
      If I could put my hand around that disease, I would strangle it, and never let it go to hurt someone else.

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  22. Scott: Why isn't everyone like you? Smart, funny, curious, careful? What an easier world it would be. P.S. Supreme Court just OK'd the Affordable Health Care Act. Maybe there is hope for us yet! Clyde

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  23. Yeah, I hate to say but I"m in Scotty's position with a GF and all but like messing with guys some--every few months or so. I did have a good buddy who we BB off an on all the time, and it was hot as hell but scared me one day and I stopped all together. Of course I got tested, and was negative. And BY THE WAY, as a healthcare worker (i know it was dumb, save me the public lashings...) a HIV test that is a PCR of RNA will be accurate in 14-20 days. it's sensitivity and specificity is greater than the old Western Blot or ELISA testing.

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    1. That is true but most public health entities are still using the old tests. That means that the 3 month window for conversion still exists. In the hospital setting where most of the testing we did was on health care workers with needle sticks they always used the very conservative 6 month window because of the liability issues.

      As someone who has a girlfriend who I presume doesn't know about your other activities you have an obligation be as careful as you can. While you are free to take whatever chances you want with your own body, knowing the risks, you cannot make the same decision for your girlfriend. That said, don't touch her without a condom util you've tested "clean" from whatever test you use. Taking chances with her health is not your right

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